Another Broken Egg
A new member of Stonebriar Church Choir in 2018, meets choir member David and his wife Debbie, who share their involvement with Ghislaine Maxwell’s “adoption agency.” Debbie explains how she referred a troubled neighbor’s son to Ghislaine, receiving a large check as a reward. Their excitement over the cheque underscores moral complexities surrounding the situation and implicates involvement in child trafficking.
Part of the Testimony & Affidavit Series — Survivor Records of Faith, Deliverance, and Justice
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Child Trafficking Eyewitness Testimony as reported by Former Stonebriar Church Choir Member Victoria Cameron and confirmed by an undercover officer
DALLAS, TX —It all started at “Another Broken Egg,” by the Nebraska Furniture Mart in The Colony, TX, a suburb of Dallas, smack dab next to Frisco, TX, a short driving distance from Stonebriar Church.
Victoria Cameron was new to the Stonebriar Church Choir. She was invited to go to lunch at that restaurant after church by a man she calls “David in the choir,” (because he sang in the choir), and his wife, a woman she calls “Debbie from Wisconsin,” (because of how she talked a lot about how she was from Wisconsin).
As she was new to the church, and new to the choir, they told her they wanted to reach out and get to know her.
They also said they were part of a ministry at the church that looked for new comers, and made it their job to reach out and make people feel welcome.
Cameron accepted their invitation and met the pair in the Stonebriar Church lobby, where “David in the choir” chose the restaurant they would be driving to for lunch, Another Broken Egg Cafe.
“David in the choir” was an engineer, and his wife “Debbie from Wisconsin” had a small online newsletter she ran. She sold ads for it to make a living.
”Debbie from Wisconsin” shared that she and “David in the choir” both had trouble getting connected when they first came to Stonebriar Church.
“Debbie from Wisconsin” said that a lot of people there didn’t really know what to think of them when they met them. She said it took a while for people there to warm up to them.
They were treated as suspicious outsiders by a lot of people at first, she told Cameron.
When they met in the church lobby, “David in the choir” said, “You need to hear about the reward Debbie got for the good deed she did.”
“Reward?” asked Cameron.
“Debbie just got a cheque from Ghislaine, for giving her a child for her adoption agency. Have you met Ghislaine? She should be around here somewhere. Maybe she’s already left for the day.”
”David in the choir” said they were going to wait until they got to the restaurant to see how much Ghislaine wrote the cheque for. He said they were both wondering how much Debbie’s good deed was worth.
At the restaurant, “Debbie from Wisconsin” explained that they had met Ghislaine Maxwell in the Stonebriar Church lobby, when they were standing around and talking with various people while they were waiting for the traffic in the parking lot to disperse after the second Sunday service let out.
Maxwell had been passing around her business cards and networking with people, and they shook hands with her and started talking and got to know each other a little, “Debbie from Wisconsin” told her.
“Debbie from Wisconsin” said Maxwell worked for an adoption agency, and that she gave monetary rewards, which she also called “finders fees,” to people who referred a child to her, if the agency she worked for was able to place them in a new situation.
”Debbie from Wisconsin” said when she talked to Maxwell, she didn’t tell her how much the rewards were for, but indicated that they were several thousands of dollars. She explained that the rewards are given on a case by case scenario, and that they fluctuate based on the nuances of the circumstances of the child’s original situation and the situation where the child is placed. She said each case is different.
“Debbie from Wisconsin” said that when she and “David in the choir” heard about Maxwell’s business, they tried to think of a child that they could refer to her, so they could get one of her rewards. She said they brainstormed together for a couple weeks until they thought of a neighbor they knew that was a single parent.
According to “Debbie from Wisconsin,” the neighbor had a lot of time management problems trying to balance her job while raising a child and paying for daycare. She was on welfare, and was micromanaging dollars to make ends meet.
Her son had behavioral problems and threw loud obnoxious tantrums all the time. She was at her wits end with trying to maintain the peace in her family home. She was a miserable, dissheveled shell of herself, waited tables for a living, and smoked cocaine.
She wanted to try dating again and needed time and space from being a parent to try to pull her life together. She had started to resent her son because every time she looked at him, he reminded her of the man who abandoned her.
She was, in her own words, “a basket case.”
When “Debbie from Wisconsin” approached her about the possibility of considering an adoption for her son, she tossed the idea around, thought about it for a few weeks, and then accepted the offer.
After her son was gone, she thanked “Debbie from Wisconsin,” called her an angel, and said she was her new best friend for taking this enormous weight off of her shoulders.
“Debbie from Wisconsin” then received a cheque from Maxwell for the sale of this child, something that Maxwell called “a finders fee.”
“David in the choir” and “Debbie from Wisconsin” were sitting in the booth at the restaurant across the table from Cameron, side by side, while “Debbie from Wisconsin” was sharing the story of how she referred this child to Maxwell and received a “reward.”
She said it was the first one she sent Maxwell, and that depending on how this goes, and depending on how much the cheque was for, and weighing all of the effort it took to convince her neighbor to let go of the child, she would think about it, if it was worth it for her to do it again.
She said it took a lot of emotional investiture on her part to build a relationship with her neighbor, to get her to trust her enough to take her advice to have her child adopted. She said she had to push at her for a few weeks to get her to give in and let go of the child.
She said it was just a temporary relationship, and that she just had to get close enough to her to get her to trust her, so she could get one of Maxwell’s rewards.
The cheque was sitting on the table unopened. The excitement was building between “David in the choir” and “Debbie from Wisconsin” to see how much Maxwell wrote the check for, to see much Debbie’s “good deed” was worth.
The moment came where they decided to open the check. “Debbie from Wisconsin” said, “oh what if she gave me a goose egg, and the joke’s on me? What if I did all of that work and put all of my time into something for nothing?”
“David in the choir” said, “I don’t think you’re getting a goose egg, because she asked you to help her do this again. She wouldn’t give you a goose egg and extend the offer to you again and expect you to take her up on it.”
“David in the choir” said “Drumroll please” and started lightly beating his hands on the table while “Debbie from Wisconsin” was opening the envelope to see the cheque.
When “Debbie from Wisconsin” saw the cheque, she gasped and clapped her hand over her mouth in astonishment. Her eyes got really wide. She said, “I can’t believe she wrote it for that much!”
She showed it to “David in the choir” and said excitedly, “Look at this amount that she wrote it for! Can you believe she gave us that much!”
“Debbie from Wisconsin” fell back against the back of the booth and said “I’m speechless!”
Cameron was not shown the face of the cheque, or told the amount. “Debbie from Wisconsin” declined to share that information with her, explaining that she and “David in the choir” don’t share things related to their personal finances as a couple with other people.
But you could tell from the way she was reacting, that it was a very, large cheque.
“Debbie from Wisconsin” kept taking the cheque in and out of the envelope, gushing over the amount. She had to look at it over and over again.
She said to “David in the choir,” “Am I seeing this right? Am I looking at the same amount of zeros behind that number as you are?”
“David in the choir” sat there with a proud grin on his face.
He said to “Debbie from Wisconsin,” “You did a good deed. You got a reward.”
This happened on a Sunday in April 2018. It was on or around the Sunday before tax day in America, as filing taxes to comply with the annual federal tax filing deadline was discussed.
Cameron stated that because of what she observed, she knows that “David in the choir” and “Debbie from Wisconsin” sold a child to Ghislaine Maxwell, and that the child was trafficked.
DCN spoke with field officers who confirmed the meeting and conversation that happened at the Another Broken Egg Cafe, as it was under surveillance.
The field officers we spoke with were part of the undercover investigation that led to the arrests of Epstein and Maxwell, and are officers in association with the office of James Dennehy, assistant director of the FBI’s New York field office. They requested to be referred to as “field officers” in order to maintain their integrity as undercover officers and so as not to jeopardize ongoing investigations.
One of the field officers said he reached out to the suspects Cameron identified as “David in the choir” and “Debbie from Wisconsin.” He asked them to comment on Cameron’s recounting of their meeting.
They both also confirmed the lunch at the Another Broken Egg Cafe, and reiterated that “Debbie from Wisconsin” received a cheque as a reward for a good deed, and stated that they did nothing wrong.
The field officer told DCN that Cameron was able to recognize signs of child trafficking that went over the heads of a lot of other people, because of how she had been a former victim of child trafficking.
He said, “We have closely surveilled this operation, and I want to make it very clear that Victoria was in no way at all a part of this group. She just happened to attend one of the churches in Dallas Fort Worth they were operating in, and assisted our officers with their investigation by reporting what she witnessed.”
According to Rick Sullivan, a Stonebriar Church attender who expressed shock and horror that this happened with individuals associated with his church,
“I think the hand of God brought Victoria to Stonebriar Church. He sent us someone who is a credible witness who was able to recognize and identity what was happening in our church. I believe that her coming here was divinely orchestrated by God, and I am grateful that she had the courage to be a witness and an advocate for other victims.”
“I think she’s someone like Joseph in the Bible, whose steps were divinely arranged by God, and just like what happened to Joseph, God was able to turn things around for her and use her as a witness and a voice to save lives,” said Sullivan.”
Who is Maxwell, the person who gave “Debbie from Wisconsin” the cheque?
According to The Guardian, Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in prison in her New York sex-trafficking case for procuring teen girls for Jeffrey Epstein for him to abuse. Maxwell has maintained her innocence.
Epstein, a convicted sex offender and financier whose elite associates once included Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton, was captured by federal authorities in July 2019, on sex-trafficking counts. He killed himself in a New York City federal jail just over one month after his arrest.
Maxwell’s attorneys had pushed for leniency in sentencing, saying that she should receive “well below” the 20 years recommended by federal probation officials. Prosecutors pushed for a sentence of 30 to 55 years in prison.
Maxwell, a former British socialite, was convicted on December 29, 2022, of five of the six charges she faced. The jury came to their decision after 40 hours of deliberations spanning six days.
In addition to sex trafficking, Maxwell was convicted of conspiracy to entice individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity, conspiracy to transport individuals under the age of 17 to travel in interstate commerce with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity; transportation of an individual under the age of 17 with intent to engage in illegal sexual activity; and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of individuals under the age of 18.
Maxwell denies all allegations that she has committed a crime.
We reached out to Stonebriar Church and David and Debbie for questions and comments in regards to this issue, and we were ignored.
WHY HAVEN’T DAVID AND DEBBIE BEEN ARRESTED?
According to the field officer we spoke with, when they were approached and confronted about the suspicious activities they were involved in, they explained it all away as something else. They said they were mortified that what they were doing looked like child trafficking to the FBI.
WAS THIS AN EXAMPLE OF GASLIGHTING?
OR WAS IT THE TRUTH?
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Stonebriar Church in Frisco, TX
Stonebriar Community Church is an Evangelical traditional style church located in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex at 4801 Legendary Dr, Frisco, TX 75034. The pastor of Stonebriar Church at the time of this incident was founding pastor Chuck Swindoll, who retired in October 2024. Chuck Swindoll is an evangelical Christian pastor, author, educator, and radio preacher. He founded Insight for Living, and is chancellor emeritus at Dallas Theological Seminary. Jonathan Murphy is the current senior pastor of Stonebriar Church. The church website is: https://www.stonebriar.org
